Review: Adfed Mentorship Circle 5/6/09

Thank you to the AdFed for organizing this quarter’s “mentorship circle” at Spill the Wine in Minneapolis last night – much appreciated! The turnout was strong (40 ppl?), lots of fresh (and young) faces, a good sign that there’s new life out there.

So the whole time I was going to see/meet Jason Sack from Zeus Jones since I really enjoyed his presentation at Minnewebcon back in early April (see below)-but-lo and behold Adrian Ho was there, also representing Zeus Jones as the founder (co?).

I jumped into a table with Adrian & Craig Pladson from Colle McVoy, amongst 8 or so others “aspiring mentees” interested in strategy & planning. Adrian was remarkably funny, surprisingly candid, and clearly brilliant.  Craig was super nice, down to earth, articulate, and also intelligent in his own right.  Most of the questions from the group were snoozers, which is fine, but I just wish I/we had more time to for Q & A to really dig in.

My questions:

It’s apparent to me that Zeus Jones is blazing their own trail by ditching everything advertising and offering a value proposition and a level of service that is far superior to what most other local agencies can dream of. Admittedly, I felt a little bad for Craig having to be next to Adrian, because it’s so painfully obvious that while there is a time and place for agencies like Colle McVoy, Zeus is gearing up to be way hotter, which is of course what works in the media world.  I just wish there were more Adrian Ho’s around here…

Thank you Adrian for taking the time to enlighten us! Unfortunately I didn’t get the chance to pitch myself, but I will eventually ;)

I really want to thank Craig though from Colle McVoy for taking the time to be there as well.  Craig was kind enough to stick around and chat one on one with me for 30 minutes after the event, which was also very informative.

For example, I learned that while Cole McVoy is moving in the right direction, they are still behind the curve.  But, this game is up for grabs and things can change overnight: best of luck to Colle McVoy!

Jason Sack on UX & Community building at Minewebcon 4/6/09:


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Jeff, on your note about how operations and marketing have to go hand in hand – this is critically important in both today’s tight operating environment for everyone: companies and individuals as well as for going where the world is headed. This is a huge business issue today.

Adrian from ZuesJones has it right when he said: “They solve marketing problems by saving money or making more money rather than by investing in marketing programs whose returns are questionable.”
http://www.zeusjones.com/blog/2009/great-examples-of-how-operations-can-become-marketing/#comment-19699

What you need to keep in mind is the massive company structure and organizational changes that are required to make enterprises outface to the customer in a better way. At even the growing small business, and certainly mid-size and Fortune 1000s, much has to go on behind the scenes before they can be agile and proactive in operations-marketing dynamics like the examples Adrian describes.

Remember: elephants need more lead time to move and react. Not every organization can be proactive jackrabbits.

For example, I’m writing articles about siloed databases at many organizations. They can’t even see into their databases and applications in many cases to get the big picture so they can react on a dime like the case of Zappos and customer service. They can’t even see into their own information to turn it into knowledge and make biz decisions, let alone to better serve the customer. So there’s a lot of retooling of processes and systems that has to happen first. This is where many organizations are at right now.

Oh, another example of that operations-marketing synergy is Amazon.com which has married predictive selling techniques and technology to their very operations and customer service to provide the best experience for the customer.They put a lot into IT as well as marketing research. They’ve also branched out to offer outsource IT services like server rental so support an enterprise’s online needs.

Thanks, MJ

“What you need to keep in mind is the massive company structure and organizational changes that are required to make enterprises outface to the customer in a better way. At even the growing small business, and certainly mid-size and Fortune 1000s, much has to go on behind the scenes before they can be agile and proactive in operations-marketing dynamics like the examples Adrian describes.

Remember: elephants need more lead time to move and react. Not every organization can be proactive jackrabbits. ”

I absolutely agree with this assessment and am well aware of the adjustment factor.

Let’s dig deeper: why?

Why are there are still a large percentage of orgs that haven’t even started this re-tooling process? How much more suffering will they endure before they’re forced to change? How many more jobs need to go and profits cut before the decision makers come clean on what is really going on? At what point is enough enough? Fear of change, insecurity, and ego is what lies behind the curtains in my opinion and if anyone thinks there are other reasons at the heart of the matter, I’d like to discuss that greater detail.

Kudos to those that have made the internal leap, are leading and embracing, and really doing the best they can while displaying the courage and humility to admit that they don’t know exactly how or where this things is going (no-one does). Thanks to those who will lead our country out of recession.

On a related note, it’s interesting to observe the attitudes of the agencies that represent a lot of these larger orgs. I actually hear them admitting that they don’t know what’s going on…wow…now were getting somewhere! The fatal flaw over the past 10-20-30 years was to think that we, or anyone else really knew anything, and that business (read: people) doesn’t evolve. At least here in the West, we fell into this trap of intellectual hubris, and it has cost us our children’s future. I include myself in this.

But I think this change is more than just a re-tooling; it’s a 180 degree reversal in business as usual and its all up for grabs. If the necessary internal psychological changes haven’t started already, the odds of successfully managing the change (should it actually happen) are decreasing daily. Markets and innovation don’t wait and they don’t care where they get their needs met + the door has been swung wide open for anyone who offers a better product/service/whatever to compete with anyone like never before. Throw in there a volatile/uncertain economy, lack of consumer confidence and distrust with wall st. banksters that financed (and still do) these massive orgs and you get a perfect storm.

The risk isn’t in changing, the risk is in waiting a minute longer to change. Information is no longer secret which until now has been one of the primary growth drivers of the “hierarchical” “top down” “command and control” “org chart” management philosophies. Talent was attracted to and loyal to the hand that fed them what they needed to know to do their job, but now, the world is at our fingertips. As a result, information has become commoditized and the long tail of a commodity is pretty close to zero. Now that it’s become an information overload only the loudest signals will be heard-and the loudest signals come from those of decentralized communities, also known as “the crowd”.

The big news is that all those companies that have had practical monopolies during the mass marketing era are now waking up to realize that their products/services are not remarkable and thus not what the web community at large wants to see and because the barrier to entry is so low, companies (read: communities) that actually strive to be the best they can be (as opposed to maximize short term profits) are listening to their markets to give them what they (the markets) want vs. what they (the corp) thinks they should want. Big difference.

Social media is simply a series of hyper connected megaphones given to each member of the internet community- this is the greatest opportunity ever to spread oneself or org and the ideas that matter – why wait? Oh yeah, you’re company is too bureaucratic and politicized, you’ve got to think about legal and PR and “message” and trying to gain control of something you don’t understand, something that’s way bigger than anyone can imagine, something that cannot be contained, and most importantly doesn’t really care what it is you sell because our sole purpose in life simply isn’t to buy. Oh yeah, and marketing didn’t tell you about social media 2-3-5 years ago because they knew the moment they saw it that there’s no future for them in the new economy.

Elephants do need more time to move and react for reasons noted. Smaller more nimble, agile, and responsive creatures are gaining unprecedented growth & market share: small is the new big and it’s the people inside the orgs that matter like never before. The future is nothing short of full transparency. Additionally, it’s no accident that there’s a direct correlation between the size of a business and it’s human characteristics – primarily respect and humility – and the web adores this stuff when it comes to commercialism.

Again, I agree with what your saying but regardless of how responsive an org can be, that’s only half of the equation, and we still have a long ways to go in that regard.

Thanks for your comment/thoughts/response!

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